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Religion Vs. Spirituality...why?

Because this has come up twice between myself and another, I though it may deserve it's own topic. The other poster tends to try and bash a certain belief system by calling it "religion" and not...

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Phelps is an example bright guy. Once again the point has escaped you. The POINT is, what you are doing is the equivalent of taking Fred Phelps and pretending like he is inline with Christians...

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Ahh, So then WHY aren't more christians OUTRAGED and shocked at this character? I mean, I don't see the big christian organizations gunning for this guy, I don't hear about any big campaigns to wipe...

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What a sad attempt at equivalence. Phelps holds signs, he doesn't kill people. And, his group ACTUALLY IS an infinitesimal minority. You can try again. i wouldn't though, you just make yourself look...

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Actually, I've heard Christians denounce him across the board, from about 6 denominations so far... both pastors and otherwise. Not to mention, just about every conservative radio or talk-show host...

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JQ, Isn't that the real crux of the problem? Unfortunately, it isn't. All these imaginings of some larger entity we need have there, watching over us, guiding us ... isn't it more reasonable that such...

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Well Nathan, we have done some HUGE LEAPs in just a few hundred years... so while I feel I am right in my assertion that we are healthier and cleaner than ever before, I agree that we seem a lot like...

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Re: Religion Vs. Spirituality...why?

Please, please, tell me you aren't serious? What have we evolved beyond, prey tell? Now, we can have our animals killed in far off places, ground up with spice, and purchased in a little plastic...

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Re: Religion Vs. Spirituality...why?

I anxiously await the scientific papers saying that vegans are the next step in evolution. Until then I will have to keep thinking that if they got lost out in the boonies they'd chow down on the...

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Vegetarianism is HARDLY new... so I'm not sure where you are getting this from, Shadow... buddhists are often vegetarians, but none of this is actively championed by nutritionists. Are you aware of...

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Paganism and Wiccanism are simply modern attempts to address deeper psychological needs of spirituality WITHOUT fixing the root problem of condoning a heavy dependance on ghosts and other UTTER...

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What? Shadow...are you saying that you don't think people believe things that aren't true??

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Re: Religion Vs. Spirituality...why?

OK SHadow... no problem. High handed talk tends to put grit in my oatmeal... Perhaps you remind me of a Wiccan because your turn of phrase resembles the lofty waftings uttered by our somewhat pithy...

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What? Shadow...are you saying that you don't think people believe things that aren't true?? Of course I think they do! Not everyone can be right - in fact I don't think many who believe in any...

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Re: Religion Vs. Spirituality...why?

in fact I don't think many who believe in any structured religion are right. Oh....and yet it's arrogant for Nathan to think that people outside certain belief are wrong about certain things...I see....

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Re: Religion Vs. Spirituality...why?

Oh....and yet it's arrogant for Nathan to think that people outside certain belief are wrong about certain things...I see. It's pretty arrogant to call people arrogant for doing the same thing you do...

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Quite right Shadow, I might further add that Faith is a somewhat optional thing in reality. -- If Lanni is interested in the TRUTH... he'll never find it by putting religion first. He will have to let...

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Shino, my point originally had nothing to do with Phelps. Go back a page, since I got off track with this. My points had nothing to with Phelps either.

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Re: Religion Vs. Spirituality...why?

For some reason, I thought I posted something along the lines of This. He will have to let go of blind faith and start questioning... everything. And not the kind of belligerent interrogation he uses...

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Jilqun, For me, the word evolution simply means change. The Theory of Evolution, in a scientific sense, means that there is a genetic change over time which is influenced by death and reproduction, as...

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That is why I practice. I had a great "wild" salad today.

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